
Embrace privacy now or pay the price in 2025 (feat. Session)
Kee Jefferys, technical co-founder of Session, breaks down the state of privacy and encryption in 2025 and explains why the Session encrypted messaging app…
S1E41 • Jul 26, 2024 • 59m
Ramon Recureo, co-founder and CEO of Kinto, joins The Agenda podcast to explain how tokenized real-world assets open up new opportunities for institutional and retail investors and how tokenization will eventually integrate blockchain into all areas of the financial industry.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) - Introduction to The Agenda podcast and this week’s episode
(01:38) - What are real-world assets (RWAs), and what is Kinto?
(08:37) - How do RWAs and Kinto differ from Robinhood and Fidelity?
(14:43) - How secure are tokenized assets?
(16:24) - How do we know RWAs are not another “crypto bubble?”
(22:38) - RWAs unlock fragmented liquidity in assets
(23:57) - DeFi is actually “safer” than traditional finance
(31:30) - RWAs will unlock trillions, but when?
(33:44) - Are there limitations to tokenizing everything?
(46:30) - Are RWAs and KYC laws compatible?
(49:50) - The role of governance at Kinto
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